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Egyamira freed =)

I never intended to start another blog other than the ones I already have. In any case, Egyamira's plight pissed me off sufficiently to post in the other blog which received overwhelming attention and I decided instead to open a group blog so that what happened to Amira won't happen again.

Moderators are human, and they have limitations just as we do. They are currently doing as best as they are able their job to moderate our community especially in the sensitive discussion forums; Peace & Conflict, Social Justice & Human Rights, to name a few. What this blog here is intended to be is as a check and balance, or voluntary helpers of the moderators, so to speak. We're more or less neutral, wanting only to help create a more friendly, just, and comfortable environment of which we can Inspire, Inform and Involve.

The original starting blog will remain open. However, further complaints etc that has caught our attention will be addressed here.

If you as a member felt that you were wrongly accused, banned, or taken action against on the website, please describe the situation you were or are under, and please post the official emails sent by the moderators here as well. If you feel uncomfortable with publishing it, you could forward the email to me instead at Chibimelody@gmail.com . Please include the forum link if it is a discussion, provided that it has not been deleted as well.

You can also contact me on MSN at Chibimelody@hotmail.com for other stuff related.

If it's a no-brainer case that the moderator is indeed right, then I won't pursue it, if it's a credible one, I'll keep on posting in this blog on a case-by-case basis. Thanks for your cooperation.

Yours sincerely,
Azira Aziz.

December 20, 2005 | 12:23 AM Comments  11 comments

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Unfair Banning of TIG Member(?)

It has come to light that a member of the TIG Discussion Board egymira was banned from this thread;

http://www.takingitglobal.org/connections/discuss/showthread.html?threadid=12699

It was originally entitled explosively by Stevez as "Why Muslims taught their children to hate" with his usual offensive one liners which contains remarks this writer found much, much more offensive than is claimed to be such content by Jon Sato below;

12/14/2005 03:06 PM
plus, if the Jewish were so peaceful creatures..Why Europe drived them far
away as could as possible and send them away fromtheir countries: borders
and boundaries before the second war and after ? ...
Why they don't allow them to go back to their old Houses ..which had been
eliminated from the Europe Map?!!
finally, If Jewish are kind people: Why they didn't respect the arab
generosity and started to plunder their lands?!!!!


12/14/2005 07:31 PM
anyway.. again I can't belive that the Chosssssssssssssen people "Jewish"
-as their teachings call- that God created them to suffer
again it can't be all what happened to them along the histroy was by
chance....

12/15/2005 02:38 PM
so why between the (1348 & 1349) Many people blamed the Jews for the Black
Plague, which kills thousands in Europe.? (what was the circumstances?
-before and after)

Her diplomacy may be lacking, but as far as the writer is informed (mind the pun, sorry) as a former moderator in another national teenage website, one is supposed to receive at the very least one warning before you straightaway suspend her membership for two weeks. That is simply a lack of courtesy. The well-educated usually stops after once, if the mistake is done again, then the person is indeed an idiot and deserved to be suspende. That is all, this writer believes, that all should be expected and asked of the moderators.

Amira did not receive any warnings at all. She was suddenly surprised with a suspension email. It wasn't done according to protocol.

In fact, the Guidelines did say something similar to this. You can surf it here;

http://www.takingitglobal.org/connections/discuss/guidelines.html

There are two types of offences; Minor and Major. Below are the descriptions of both offences;

Minor Offences

1. Name-calling, disrespectful language and attitudes
2. Making strong statements with no explanation or rationale
3. Dominating the discussion boards by adding multiple posts without encouraging or allowing others to share their perspectives
4. Unnecessary obscenity or use of vulgar language
5. Advertising of commercial products or services
6. Adding posts irrelevant to the topic being discussed
7. Adding posts that exceed 1,000 words

Major Offences

1. Dehumanizing and discriminatory language as outlined in our definition of human rights (see above)
2. Contravening Canada's hate laws (TIG is based in Canada and is governed under Canadian content laws)
3. Any threat of bodily harm that is clearly stated or implied

According to the said email given to Amira, her offences falls under Major offences, falling under the major offences thus her 2 week suspension.

This writer must disagree, and below are my reasons why;

1) Selective protectionism of so-called anti-semitism. No offence to everyone, but it's truly a(n) (understandably) sensitive issue which people who live in the particular area or region especially between those involved directly in the Palestine-Israel conflict feels strongly about. I feel that this is selective protectionism of selective groups whether minor or major within this community, and I demand similar treatment for those of other than Jews as well. For example, the MUSLIM society that has been bombarded with unlimited ammo on how we are inferior or nutters as compared to 'us' (double meaning intended).

2) Loopholes. Stevez, through his various "wilful ignorant" (quoting Luke) remarks has in fact violated Minor Offences 1 & 2, PLUS Major Offences 1 various times. Scour through all the discussions that all me, Luke & Stevez has been in. The evidence is all there, and yet no action has been taken? Hrmm...

3) Come to think of it, we all have in fact done that one thing or another in our tenure here in this community, so look inside yourself and be honest, do we want this sort of thing to continue? I believe in honest and open discussions, sure, some flare-ups happens. In a truly erudite discussion, however, somebody is quick to scold and reprimand, and remind everyone to be civil. Send a warning. My advice to those who wish to participate in discussions of sensitive issues is to present their arguments in an academic manner befitting the boring textbooks you wish you never have to read. Structured, learned, clear, and supported. I've no claim to its full status yet, I admit as I am still learning, but the effort is well worth it. It allows for logical and rational reasonings and discussions. This is a GLOBAL NETWORK where we met, speak, and see how things are and should be.

Inspire. Inform. Involve.

Play nice, boys.

4) Questions needs answers. Not always offending questions are truly meant to be offensive. I've known some highly blunt and outspoken people in my life, and they tend to say it as they think it is. Which is better? Unanswered questions which resides in one's mind and heart to ferment to bitter resentment and suspicion or for these questions, inherited what-nots to be laid out bare in the open, spoken out of, and then cleared out so that the truth would be known? Should we blanket it with oh-we-can't-say-that, and forced civility when it is well understood that when it is a discussion, all facts, assumptions, theories, sources are supposed to be added into it to accumulate into this pool of information we can all react, know, and learn. The world evolves, we are breaking taboos every day. You don't expect married women to immediately divorce their husbands after reading feminist books. People don't immediately fly to the Vatican City to seek out and smell the conspiracy of the Illuminati after reading the Da Vinci Code. We have minds and power to decide on our own without anyone stupidly following those who are making obvious 'go-here' efforts. It's ridiculous. Let's all let it out and learn together without forsaking what is good and beautiful in this world.

You decide.

December 17, 2005 | 1:06 PM Comments  34 comments

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