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Egyamira freed =)

I never intended to start another blog other than the ones I already have. In any case, Egyamira's plight pissed me off sufficiently to post in the other blog which received overwhelming attention and I decided instead to open a group blog so that what happened to Amira won't happen again.

Moderators are human, and they have limitations just as we do. They are currently doing as best as they are able their job to moderate our community especially in the sensitive discussion forums; Peace & Conflict, Social Justice & Human Rights, to name a few. What this blog here is intended to be is as a check and balance, or voluntary helpers of the moderators, so to speak. We're more or less neutral, wanting only to help create a more friendly, just, and comfortable environment of which we can Inspire, Inform and Involve.

The original starting blog will remain open. However, further complaints etc that has caught our attention will be addressed here.

If you as a member felt that you were wrongly accused, banned, or taken action against on the website, please describe the situation you were or are under, and please post the official emails sent by the moderators here as well. If you feel uncomfortable with publishing it, you could forward the email to me instead at Chibimelody@gmail.com . Please include the forum link if it is a discussion, provided that it has not been deleted as well.

You can also contact me on MSN at Chibimelody@hotmail.com for other stuff related.

If it's a no-brainer case that the moderator is indeed right, then I won't pursue it, if it's a credible one, I'll keep on posting in this blog on a case-by-case basis. Thanks for your cooperation.

Yours sincerely,
Azira Aziz.

December 20, 2005 | 12:23 AM Comments  11 comments

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froot heba
December 20, 2005 | 2:17 AM

good idea girl
Fredex126 King TUT JR.
December 20, 2005 | 11:44 AM
NOW TAKE YOUR BLOCK OFF THE HOOKES, PLEASE# 1


King TUT JR.
December 19, 2005 | 1:29 PM
MR JON SATO PLEASE DO YOUR HOME WORKS, THANKS:-

Comments from fredex126:-

Mr JonSato word is wellsaid, very inspring ,well writing and is open to many enterpreation to what is right & what is wrong to say about issue specifically in word and meaing. do you rember me I am still Blog Cloose,To Servie The Members That what I Write For .
Do you Rembers Mr SHOBUZ He Write For The Members to,
I say again The Isuue Is Not The Jewish, they are our Neighbouars and Friend we have live with them every day, We Do not Have any thing to do with of so-called anti-semitism. No offence to anyone or everyone ,
It only the Fact of History That made Offence,
I hope I made My Self Clear as well The Middle East Pepole,
YOU BETTER KNOW THAT FACT:-

JEWISH HAVE ALL THE RIGHTS TO LIVE WITH US IN PEACE ,THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 5564 YEARS SO FARE, YOU COUNT DO YOUR HOME WORK .
YES However,I understand that you are doing your best to protect our rights and to consider the rights of anyone who may be reading the discussions that is greats.
GET YOUR LAWS& ORDER STRIGHT,
PEACE WITH YOU.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
NOW TAKE YOUR BLOCK OFF THE HOOKES, PLEASE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


Fredex126 King TUT JR.
December 20, 2005 | 11:49 AM
IS THAT OFFENSIVE *** ITS ONLY HISTORY # 2
IS THAT OFFENSIVE #5 [delete]
IS THAT OFFENSIVE # 5 [delete]
IS THAT OFFENSIVE TO TGI TEAM :-
IS THAT OFFENSIVE # 4
THE HOLY BIBLE - GENESIS 15-18-ON THAT DAY THE LORD MADE A COVENANT
WITH APOSTLE ABRAM, SAYING "TO YOUR DESCENDANTS I HAVE GIVEN THIS LAND, FROM THE RIVER OF EGYPT AS FAR AS THE
GREAT RIVER, THE RIVER EUPHRATES.
>>/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

MR CGUGZZZ YOU MAKE THE HATES

Unfortunately, MY image was not received properly
> due to PERSONAL problems.

> Unfortunately, the article I submitted AS SALAAM
> ALKIKUM, HAVE NO used offensive, unsupported, and
> discriminatory language and SHOULDBE AND can be published in
> Panorama. MY position is one that fuels
> NO hate-mongering and therefore is RIGHT WITH YOURE position which TO DO & publish.

<><> THEN YOU MUST BE OUT OF YOUR MIND, OUT OF LINE, WHICH I HAVE NO ANY HATE TO ANY ONE AS WELL AS JEWS ITS A HISTORY AS A FACT YOU BETTER SEE THE BIBLE OR THE TORA SORRY
MABIL

--- TakingITGlobal Editorial Team wrote:

> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:19:56 -0400
> To:
> Subject: Your TakingITGlobal Panorama Article
> From: TakingITGlobal Editorial Team
>
>
> <><><><>>>>>>>>>>>>><><>><><><><><
> Dear Mabil EL ATTIAYA,
> Unfortunately, the article you submitted AS SALAAM
> ALKIKUM, ( used offensive, unsupported, and
> discriminatory language ) and cannot be published in
> Panorama. ( Your position is one that fuels
> hate-mongering and therefore is not a position which
> we will publish. )
>
> If you have any questions, feel free to contact us
> at editorial@takingitglobal.org
> Sincerely,
> cgudz
> The TakingITGlobal Editorial Team
> editorial@takingitglobal.org
>>>>>>>>>>>"""""""""""""""""""""""'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''>>>>>>>>>>>
<><><>> AS SALAAM ALKIKUM<><><><
<><> HAKAUA MOUSL TO HAIFA:--<><>
Fredex126 King TUT JR.
December 20, 2005 | 12:51 PM
≤≥ MAJOR OFFENCE WARNING TO SPEAK THE TRUTHS ≤≥
AS SALAAM ALKIKUM ≤≥ FREEDOM OF EXPERATION
"Jon Sato"   Add to Address Book
To:inyint25@yahoo.co.in
Subject: TakingITGlobal Panorama Submissions
Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 17:15:19 -0500


MAJOR OFFENCE WARNING EMAIL
 
Dear TIG Member Fredex126 / King TUT JR.,
 
TakingITGlobal reserves the right to decide what or what not to print on our website including our resources such as Panorama or the Global Gallery.  A complete copy of the TakingITGlobal Terms of Service (including the following) and privacy policy can be found at:
http://www.takingitglobal.org/members/disclaimer.html.
 
“TakingITGlobal and its designees shall have the right (but not the obligation) in their sole discretion to refuse or move any Content that is available via the Service. Without limiting the foregoing, TakingITGlobal and its designees shall have the right to remove any Content that violates these Terms of Service or is otherwise objectionable.”
 
Furthermore, this email is being forwarded to you as a major offence warning in regards to an infringement of the TakingITGlobal Terms of Service.
 
The TIGblogs comment dated September 10, 2005 | 8:29 PM including the following comments directed at our staff: “THEN YOU MUST BE OUT OF YOUR MIND, OUT OF LINE… YOU BETTER SEE THE BIBLE OR THE TORA SORRY”.  This type of language directed toward our staff is not respectful and will not be tolerated.
 
Please be advised that violations such as these may result in the suspension or termination of your account.  These Terms of Service are in place to insure that the interests of all individuals using the TakingITGlobal website are respected. 
 
For information on further guidelines in regards to the discussion boards, please refer to: http://www.takingitglobal.org/discuss/guidelines.html.
 
Thank you very much for your understanding,
 
J. Sato
Community Engagement Moderator
TakingITGlobal
www.takingitglobal.org


Fredex126 King TUT JR.
December 20, 2005 | 1:52 PM
My letter of concer Get you Warningof Major OFFENCE
To:http://www.takingitglobal.org
Date; oct,/ 12/ 2005
Subject: Letter of Concern

From:Fredex126

Dear, Jocelyn Sweet
Communications Coordinator,
TakingITGlobal

<> As a member of TakingITGlobal, I feel I am not be treat with the full membership
benafit, for the last three month every time I post articalXXXit list only at the last 24 hours at Tig blog, View More Section only, The post blog entry on Personal updates
from Tig Members Never show up Why ?

<> Do you Usaully do this Offen you run TIG in a shadowed life due to moral and cultural policing and discrimination, you need new strength, inspiration, and courage to curry on,
there was a time when you were very much confused as to what should you do and were to begin.

<> Why you should just keeping making cookie or think wisely to grow up wisely
with no cultural policing and discrimination for the TIG Family


<> I might Warren Anyone who wish to be
introduce to TakingITGlobal is not welcome!
The way I see it, the more people meeting each
other and making connections the better! Ultimately,
TakingITGlobal is about making connections whether
it's across the world or across the
city. But My Blog is not Posted as should be .
Will be kind to look to this and give me a feed back.

I sincerely hope you will be able to solve this problem or give me a feed Back
Thank you
Best Regards
Fredex126
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ch
hugh Hugh Switzer
December 22, 2005 | 11:11 AM

The original decision that was made by Jon was upheld in our meeting and Amira's profile was made visible because of special circumstances.
ChibiMelody Azira Aziz
December 24, 2005 | 12:58 PM
What the?
Special circumstances?

Let me get this straight. You're letting Amira's profile visible for the because she wasn't warned.

Look, I want a single statement saying yea, we're sorry we didn't give a warning and we would be careful to do so in the future. I think it would be nice if Jon would apologises to her specifically and personally over the no warning issue.

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,
Azira Aziz.
santaclos ugonwosu
December 26, 2005 | 2:05 PM
Much ado about...

Guess we could have put all these over one side if some of us can just let down the "unnecessary" ego thing and say sorry when it is very glaring one has made some mistake. The deed has been done. In the real world there are no excuses, one is expected to take responsibility of his or her actions.

can the apologies flow? please!!!!!!!!!!!!
jsato Jon Sato
December 29, 2005 | 6:30 PM
Clarification of Facts

Azira,

Aren't you in any way communicating with Amira? I would think you would be before attempting to speak out on her behalf. However, the information you post regarding what is going on with her account is repeatedly inaccurate and I would think you'd be aware of that if you were communicating with her.

Firstly, let me clarify the procedures regarding warnings as stated in our guidelines:
http://www.takingitglobal.org/connections/discuss/guidelines.html

For MINOR offences (incuding unnecessary obscenity, adding posts that exceed 1,000 words, etc.) warnings are issued for first offences.

For MAJOR offences (including descriminatory language, contravening hate laws and threat of bodily harm), 1) the post is edited or deleted, 2) a written explanation sent, and 3) suspension of either posting priviliges or TIG account at the discretion of TIG staff.

Since the issue concerned whether or not a major offence occured the latter procedure applied and steps 1), 2) and 3) were followed. In step 3), the typical account suspension was orginally applied, however, at my discretion, I decided to change this to "Suspension of Posting Priviliges" (only) due to the aforementioned "special circumstances".

Later, there was a meeting at TIG and they agreed to uphold the suspension and leave the decision I made in effect.

The "special circumstances" had nothing to do with anything you have suggested. After my discussion with the member regarding her WSIS and Youth Platform projects, I decided (at my discretion) to change from the TIG account suspension to the Suspension to Posting Priviliges (only) in order to keep all active links in her profile accessible.

This is the entire procedure that was followed and it remains consistent with our guidelines. I am always quite hesitant to discuss any member's circumstances openly, but I thought it was necessary to clarify any misinformation in this case.
jsato Jon Sato
December 29, 2005 | 6:31 PM
Apologies

I am truly sorry for any inappropriate decisions I have made. People do make mistakes and I am human. For any mistakes I have made, am making or will make in the future, I am very sorry. I think Amira is a fantastic member and a great person and we are very happy to have her as a member of TIG. To this end, I have encouraged her to remain actively involved in all areas of our site. Please understand that any future actions taken on any of our members are not personal, but are just my interpretations of the guidelines and terms of service. I am doing my best to be fair and equal to everyone and every group.

I also apologize that these will likely be my last comments under members' personal TIGblogs. Please consider that I am not able to scan 100,000 members TIGblogs to see if they are directing a comment toward me or awaiting for some sort of response. If you direct a comment towards me on your blog I may not reply. Instead, if you have any questions or wish to comment on what a terrible (or wonderful) job I am doing you may email me personally and I will respond directly to your comments (jon@takingitglobal.org).

Peace and best wishes,

Jon Sato
Community Engagement Moderator
TakingITGlobal.org
jon@takingitglobal.org
egyamira Amira Sobeih
December 31, 2005 | 1:15 AM
FREEDOM :)

well …as it is 31st of December..the day of " your Account is Active" announcement.. mmm…very nice to see my self editing and submit something..mm..I've a lot to say ..but for the moment not much (coz I've an exam after tomorrow and I've to study for my school) ..-may be later-

so for now: I've to thank some people round here and there –in public as i owning them- (despite that I did for some):
first of all:
Karim (Alligator ) : the first one noticed and wondered where is Amira?? -I do appreciate him, not coz of that great support but coz he is a great friend in hard times as well- :))
And I'd like to thank this problem coz it introduced some people to me which makes me so proud to meet them (and how much Lucky I am):

The Gorgeous Azira : really it s nice meeting you.. you give support to some one you don't know.. just coz you believe in justice..not only that but more..
look Azira: I've no words capable to thank you with.. really you got a brave heart and golden spirit..Thank U
I wish you all the best (and sure u'll have it and you will be a great lawyer) and hope to be in contact for ever..

And ajay78 , Arslanik , King TUT JR., (I don't think we had contact before ..but you stand and give a hand for a human in trouble)

Concerning friends and colleages: moustafahussein , Shobuz(®๑۩۞۩๑*™*Shobuz Bhai*™*๑۩۞۩๑® ), Injy , froot , heba, ugo nwosu (santaclos), Batoola

and sure Hugh Switzer for being "some how' neutral ..


really it s sooooo good to see some people stand for right , it gives the hope..that in need someone will be there :)

so thanks all again
(and thank anyone I forgot to thank)





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